larinah:

*Sits here not so patiently waiting for American Gods to be a tv show or miniseries.*

*Taps watch a few times.*

*Continues to wait…….*

I’m over here watching The Rocky Horror Picture Show.  (“Dammit! Janet! I love you!”) It’s kind of strange to see Barry Bostwick with dark hair.  

If you’re taking obscure recs:  I stumbled on the TV series “Awake” on Netflix a couple months ago.  Jason Isaacs plays a police officer who is living in two lives and unsure which is the real one.  

Why? What is Robbie doing here?

Is it just simply a reference to the imprisoned feminine?

Piper in OITNB was imprisoned after she was enticed into crime because of being what she thought her lover wanted her to be. She then felt betrayed by her lover into an unjust imprisonment. The first season was all about her journey questioning who she thought she was, and perhaps concluding she wasn’t quite so innocent as she thought she was.

Or is he bringing Sam and the “imprisoned feminine” into association?

See butterflydm’s meta on the imprisoned feminine

So many themes of being hungry, worn out, and longing for more for Sam in this episode. Of experiencing intimacy, and feeling release and be succored by the encounter. But ultimately he wanted more than his partner wanted to give.

Why are there so many themes of perspective and POV these recent seasons? Why are we being drawn into feeling sympathy for The Darkness?

I keep thinking of Sam’s line about saving all of the people, even the ones who were killing because there was something wrong with them. This episode, too, was about saving the “monsters,” redeeming them and giving them peace.

Sleepsintheimpala points out that the need to break the chains that bind us, both literal and metaphorical, is an important theme this season.

Larinah pointed out that Sam was pictured flirting with yet another blonde woman at a cash register with key chains and poker chips All alluding to chains and keys and taking a gamble.

And so I wonder if we’re headed down a journey of the Winchesters trying to do things the old way. Fight the Big Bad of the season, but, ultimately, they learn to see things from The Darkness’ perspective.

And that the only solution isn’t about overpowering and imprisoning The Darkness, but the key to their problem is to take a risk, and save The Darkness, too.

justanotheridijiton:

So, get this: the Winchesters forgot that yarrow is used in summoning spells.

Does Mommy Dearest not want the Winchesters playing with her Fergus?

Yeah, I was wondering about this connection.  Was it a purposeful call-back?  Or if Adam Glass – who I understand admits he has not watched the first 5 seasons – didn’t know about the connection between yellow yarrow and demon summoning and deals.  

If it was purposeful, then, yeah, I can definitely see a connection being drawn between deals-demons and witches-deals, and all associated with Rowena.

Season 8, the Magnolia season

larinah:

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The episode “Goodbye Stranger” got me thinking. That fabulous old Supertramp song was featured in a scene of the movie “Magnolia”. Like I said in this post many of the themes of the movie are very similar to the long-running themes of Supernatural. I rewatched the movie last night and I realized it’s more than that. I think the entirety of season 8 has been pulling elements from the movie.

Here are the similar elements I saw:

-Every scene in movie has flowers or pictures of flowers in it. I think every episode of season 8 has a theosophical symbol in it. (I’m not positive about that as I didn’t notice until halfway through the season that there were many shots that lingered just a little too long on a symbol, I’ll have to go back and watch the first five or six episodes to be sure.) We’ve had the pin of the werewolf professor in “Bitten”, the Men of Letters aquarian star symbol, the tree symbol that showed up on the doomed LARPers, the symbol on the bar the witches frequent and on and on.

-In the first episode of the season we saw a mysterious hooded man outside Sam and Amelia’s house and still haven’t gotten any confirmation as to whom that was. In the movie there is a man wearing a hooded coat who we only ever see from behind. He’s referred to as “the Worm” and he’s guilty of a murder another woman has been arrested for committing.

-In the movie there is a super-smart child who is often pictured surrounded by books and is being pressured to perform well on a game-show by his father. He’s also a prophet who many people think represents Moses. In season 8, we have advanced-placement prophet Kevin Tran who is being pressured to read the word of the Lord.

-There are repeated references to Freemasonry in the movie, from symbols in the background to a character quoting their greeting as stated in Kipling’s “the Man Who Would Be King”. In season 8, we were presented with the Men of Letters, which appears to be very similar to the Masons as secret societies. (Also, as stated above, there are many theosophical symbols placed around the background of season 8.)

-People have made connections between the title of the movie and the word “Magonia” which has been described as a “purgatory in the sky to which creatures and objects inexplicably disappear and then occasionally fall back to earth”. Cas was in purgatory and then inexplicably reappeared. We know (or assume) that Naomi got him out, but to Dean and Sam this has been a mystery for most of the season. (If you’ve seen the movie, you know some things inexplicably fall from the sky. So help me, if the Colt shows back up, I’m gonna scream!!)

-There is also a movie called “Magonia” which is about a less-than-fully-sane father telling his son stories where all the characters curiously resemble people living near the father. In season 8, we’ve seen many instances of recasting of actors from prior seasons in different roles, nearly every episode.

-In the movie, reality is in question because it has decayed in the characters memories. They’re not quite sure if things in the past really happened or not and some of them have created different versions of the past from what ultimately is the truth. Dean did this with his memories of leaving Cas in Purgatory. Some people also thought that Dean’s defense of his father was odd considering that he seemed to be acknowledging that his father certainly had his faults earlier.

-In the movie, a line from the book “The Natural History of Nonsense”, which debunks superstitious belief and paranormal activity, is quoted twice. The line is “We might be through with the past, but the past is not through with us.” In season 8, we saw Sam and Dean’s paternal grandfather show up out of their motel closet (sort of like dropping inexplicably out of the sky) and completely change their knowledge of what happened in their own pasts. They had written the guy off as having abandoned their father, but instead it turns out he saves them.

-The movie pits children (some of them now grown-up, but still in the children’s camp) against adults. The kids have been compared to the Israelites and the adults to the Egyptians. All the children have been abused (physically or psychologically) or neglected by their parents, especially their fathers, and those who have grown up are miserable because of their fathers’ past deeds. Even the non-parents look down on and ignore the wisdom of the children. At one point a character says “It’s dangerous to confuse children with angels” to which one of the grown up children yells that it is not a dangerous thing to do. (Jim Beaver happens to be sitting at the bar in this scene, by the way. Also, this is the setting where “Goodbye Stranger” is playing on the jukebox.) The whole run of Supernatural has dealt with father/child issues, but I think this season they’re also dealing with the slave/master issue much like the Israelite/Egyptian theme. The humans want the supernatural entities to leave them alone…to let them go. That’s what closing the gates of both Heaven and Hell presumably means to the people.

-At the end of the movie Aimee Mann’s “Save Me” plays. The lyrics to that song are a perfect representation of Sam and Amelia’s relationship.

There were a few other little odd and ends I noticed, but this is already pretty long so I’ll stop here. Magnolia is a fabulous movie and I highly recommend it if you haven’t seen it, though boy oh boy is it loaded with profanity! This season has many little puzzles and possible mis-directs and red herrings just like the movie. It’s narrated by Ricky Jay, who is noted for his mastery of slight-of-hand. I’m really interested to see if that’s what Carver has been up to as well.

ETA after season 8 finale: The bar scene in Sacrifice is very reminiscent of the bar scenes in Magnolia, and the angels falling from the sky as a climax mirrors the frogs falling from the sky in Magnolia.  Also, Crowley saying that he didn’t know where to begin asking for forgiveness and Sam confessing that his biggest sin was repeatedly letting Dean down were very much like the death-bed confession of the dying father admitting that he failed his wife and son.

“So help me, if the Colt shows back up, I’m gonna scream!!”

Okay, I gotta ask for more about what you’re thinking.  Funny you would say that, because I’ve been wondering when THIS will come into play:

Samuel Colt’s journal:

Samuel Colt’s weapon: The Colt

and:  Cole T.

ACK – Hey? Is tumblr being buggy for anyone else but me?

hearseeno:

I poke at the heart but can’t “like” something.

Scrolling sometimes just stops dead and the next set of posts don’t load.

Sometimes images load just fine.  Other times I refresh my dashboard they take forever.

Sometimes I click on the Search Tumbler input box and my saved searches load, sometimes they don’t.

The mobile version on my iPad is even slower.

I’m using Safari.  Tried the new app for Mac and have the same issues.

Anyone else?

larinah answered: It’s fine for me. (I’m on Firefox.)

Thanks larinah.  After struggling through one too many “reloading” interruptions while trying to watch Netflix, I ended up resetting my modem and things seem to be running much better, now.