OH CHUCK, DEAN IS NOT JOHN’S SON (10X03)

roguishfeathers:

attackofthekillermexisaurusrex:

THE BLOOD TYPE THEORY

Okay, so kaeostennyo SENT ME THIS:

“Mexisaurus Rex, Meta master, I don’t know if anyone else has mentioned this anywhere yet. Either SPN has a major continuity error, or we have a problem. Dean’s blood…

Yeeeeeaaaah, and it’s not like it isn’t simplistic and gross to assume that if someone is treated differently than other siblings in a family it must be due to them not being blood relatives.  

If you don’t think it’s gross, I dare you to go find the first adopted person you know and tell them that their parents don’t love them as much as their siblings, or ask them who their "real” parents are.  I’ll be over here.  That’s okay.  I can wait.

You want to talk about how John in particular would be predisposed to do that kind of thinking, then we can talk.  Otherwise, just assuming that John didn’t love or care about one of his sons as much as the other because they didn’t share DNA, yeah, no. Just no.

OH CHUCK, DEAN IS NOT JOHN’S SON (10X03)

yarnyfan:

yarnyfan:

I’d like to point out:
Adina is literally wearing her heart on her sleeve.
Said heart seems to have an American flag theme.
Possibly relevant to all this

(screencaps from HOTN)

reblogging for an addition: I was in a hurry when I made the original post, and I realize now that the American flag is not quite right. I think I saw red, white, blue with stars and got excited. Stars, though! And at least the right color scheme, if not quite in the right places.

D’oh!  Oh man.  You beat me.  🙂  I was just about to upload a screenshot of them.

larinah:

hearseeno:

I was thinking about what yarnyfan was saying about the screen as a visual callback to the punch card, evoking the theme of angelic programming.  Here it’s disused, abandoned.  

And then we also have the red, white and blue combo that appears when episodes have heavy themes of choice and exerting free will.  

I wish I remember who started talking about stars.  Was it you, larinah?  Given that Hannah keeps getting lost in this episode and Cas counsels her to not “lose her way” in terms of her priorities, she seems to be on the verge of questioning what it means to be an angel.  So, I keep thinking of stars as those things that guide.  Of all things, they are relatively steady in the heavens and have been used for navigation when we have nothing else to give us direction.  

I talked about stars here and here, but I think some other people have been talking about them, too.

All this is actually making me think back to one of the books Metatron had in his apartment.  The one titled Pied Piper.  I’m going to pull out a section of what I wrote there because it ties in both the stars and maybe the flags we’ve been seeing, too:

The boat sails out and it is a rough journey.  Most of the children are seasick, but Pierre, the little French boy, loves sailing and wants to help steer.  The owner of the boat shows him how to sail by saying:

Put it this way.  So.  Keep her at that, and look always at your star.

When Howard asks Pierre how he is doing, Pierre says:

He said to sail at those square stars up there.  (He means the Big Dipper.)  That is where we are going to, m’sieur.  That is the way to America, under those stars.  There is so much food there that you can give some to a dog and have him for your friend.  Mademoiselle Nicole told me so.

(In this book, America sounds very much like a land of milk and honey.)  They make it and Howard ends up sending all of the children on to his daughter in America where they are very happy.  (The German girl, Anna, goes on to her uncle in Minnesota.)  But Howard stays in London and eventually tells this story to the book’s narrator during an air raid.

In that post I was comparing Cas to Howard and the rest of the angels to the little kids he saves from the Nazis.  I think that still holds this season.  (Howard is also a fisherman, which makes me think of Daniel and Cas talking about fishing.)

I’m actually re-reading that book right now for my book club because I like picking books I’ve already read so I don’t accidentally choose a stinker to discuss.  I may be back with more thoughts on it if anything new hits me on this second reading.

That’s very interesting.  I confess I’m not all that well-read.  I blame graduate school. It soured me on reading for a good ol’ long time.  I completely understand your desire to pick books you’ve already read instead of investing so much time into a “stinker.” I kinda feel that way about movies these days, too.

Well Metatron certainly thinks that angels require their own Pied Piper.  Luckily with stars you can choose your own course.  I would really like it if we could get some forward moment on the angel story instead of retreading the old themes.

larinah:

The Star-Brite Drive-In Theater intrigues me.  It intrigued me even more when I saw Jensen’s tweet about it being visual effects rather than an actual ruined theater, because that means there’s no chance shooting there was just because it was a spot that looked cool in the background. It was absolutely intentional and the state of the screen and sign are also very much intentional.  (I’m not sure whether or not the sign is visual effects, but it was surely brought in even if it was practical.)

The name Star-Brite makes me think of the old rhyme:

Star light, star bright,
The first star I see tonight;
I wish I may, I wish I might,
Have the wish I wish tonight.

Stars, the things Hannah never gets tired of looking at, are sometimes thought to be magical enough that one can wish upon them.  Jiminy Cricket sings about dreams coming true for people who wish upon a star, in Pinocchio, a movie about a puppet who wants to be a real boy.  Some people think stars guide them or unite them across great distances.  They can help people know where they are and where they are going.

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I was thinking about what yarnyfan was saying about the screen as a visual callback to the punch card, evoking the theme of angelic programming.  Here it’s disused, abandoned.  

And then we also have the red, white and blue combo that appears when episodes have heavy themes of choice and exerting free will.  

I wish I remember who started talking about stars.  Was it you, larinah?  Given that Hannah keeps getting lost in this episode and Cas counsels her to not “lose her way” in terms of her priorities, she seems to be on the verge of questioning what it means to be an angel.  So, I keep thinking of stars as those things that guide.  Of all things, they are relatively steady in the heavens and have been used for navigation when we have nothing else to give us direction.  

Narratively, why have Crowley force feeding Cas grace at this point in the story? I wonder.

All that talk about feeling things because you’re human. (Crowley: “Feelings!”)

Lots of discussion among fans that something seems not quite right.

Cas requires doses of grace to remain what he is.

Is this foreshadowing that Dean will need ongoing doses of blood in order to remain human?

IT’S OCTOBER WHY IS IT SO HOT IN HERE?

WHY IS MY SCALP ITCHING SO MUCH?

HOW CAN TWO 10 POUND CREATURES TAKE UP MORE THAN HALF OF THE BED?

SERIOUSLY, YOU WANT TO CUDDLE NOW?

WHAT THE HELL IS MY NEIGHBOR DOING UPSTAIRS THAT REQUIRES SHOES AT 2 O’CLOCK IN THE MORNING?

WHY AM I NOT ASLEEP?